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    <title>Should I Record Abusive Phone Calls From Debt Collectors?</title>
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    <published>2008-05-17T00:03:39Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-17T00:15:10Z</updated>
    
    <summary>We are often asked by Alabama consumers if they should record abusive debt collectors who call. While this is a complicated question, our general answer is &quot;No&quot;. Recent cases have raised concerns for us about whether Alabama residents can record...</summary>
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        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We are often asked by Alabama consumers if they should record <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_an_alabama_consumer_s_1.html ">abusive debt collectors</a> who call.  While this is a complicated question, our general answer is "No".  Recent cases have raised concerns for us about whether Alabama residents can record calls from other states that might require the consent of both parties.</p>

<p>Alabama is known as a "one party" state.  Only one person or party has to agree or consent to the recording of a call.  While we disagree with these rulings, some courts have ruled that if the call comes from a "two party" state into a one party state (like Alabama) consent must be obtained before recording.</p>

<p>There are numerous exceptions in the law of some (if not all) two party states that allow you to record a crime and often harassment is considered a crime but this question has become so complicated we generally recommend that you not record.  You may not know where, for example, the call is coming from.</p>

<p>The safest thing to do is to either just take detailed notes of the call during and immediately after the call and/or tell the other person you are going to record if they keep talking.  An abusive debt collector may not believe that you are recording as they often hear this from consumers.</p>

<p>Either approach is fine but we caution our clients to not record unless they know with certainty where the call is coming from and that it is legal to record.  You do have to assume that the agency will record all calls and most of the time when you call you will get a message that calls may be recorded.  If in litigation they don't have the calls, this may raise a question as to why they destroyed the tapes that would support your claim of abuse.</p>

<p>Tapes are not needed to prove a case against an abusive debt collector and there is no need to risk running up against the law of some other state without carefully considering the consequences and circumstances.  <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">If you live in Alabama and are being abused by a debt collector or collection agency, please contact us</a>.</p>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Debt Buyer Example - Unifund - Picture Of The Size Of The Industry</title>
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    <published>2008-05-15T22:06:34Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-15T22:13:29Z</updated>
    
    <summary>A friend pointed out some interesting things on the Unifund website. We wanted to share these with you to give you an idea of how big these debt buyer companies can be. Here are a few quotes off of the...</summary>
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        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A friend pointed out some interesting things on <a href="http://www.unifund.com/Home.aspx">the Unifund website</a>.  We wanted to share these with you to give you an idea of how big these debt buyer companies can be.  Here are a few quotes off of the Unifund website:<br />
<blockquote>Since our founding in 1986, Unifund has purchased, sold or otherwise liquidated and managed billions of dollars of delinquent accounts receivable. We have been a pioneer, creating many of the products and procedures that are now commonplace in the maturing Accounts Receivable Management industry. At Unifund, we use proprietary technology and processes in unique ways, enabling us to obtain superior recoveries from previously charged-off accounts.</p>

<p>Every year, Unifund purchases several billion dollars of charged-off receivables from major banks and financial institutions of all sizes. </blockquote></p>

<p><a href="http://www.unifund.us/DebtBuyersHighFive.Unifund.pdf">Here is a link to an industry article discussing, back in 2004, the top five debt buyers including Unifund</a>.</p>

<p>Unifund is in a legitimate business but if Unifund or any other debt buyer has harassed or abused you and you live in Alabama, <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">feel free to contact us for a free consultation on your rights</a>.</p>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Examples Of Abusive Phone Calls From Out Of Control Debt Collectors</title>
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    <published>2008-05-14T19:18:39Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-14T19:24:50Z</updated>
    
    <summary>Our friend Pete Barry, who is an extraordinary consumer lawyer in Minnesota, was recently interviewed and shared a few of his tape recordings of abusive debt collectors. We recommend you watch this video. If you have never dealt with abusive...</summary>
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        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our friend <a href="http://www.lawpoint.com/">Pete Barry</a>, who is an extraordinary consumer lawyer in Minnesota, was <a href="http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=6477710&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1">recently interviewed and shared a few of his tape recordings of abusive debt collectors.  We recommend you watch this video</a>.  If you have never dealt with <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_an_alabama_consumer_s_1.html">abusive debt collectors</a>, this will open your eyes to what real people are facing.  If you have dealt with abusive debt collectors, then you can realize you are not alone.  In any event, if you live in Alabama and are <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">having to face abusive collection agencies, please contact us</a>.</p>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>What Are The Four Benefits Of The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act For Alabama Consumers?</title>
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    <published>2008-05-13T19:05:45Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-13T19:15:12Z</updated>
    
    <summary>Alabama consumers who are harassed by debt collectors and debt buyers often wonder if the law really helps them - that is, what do they get out of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA)? Many things, but four primary...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Alabama consumers who are harassed by debt collectors and debt buyers often wonder if the law really helps them - that is, what do they get out of the <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_an_alabama_consumer_s.html">Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA)</a>?  Many things, but four primary ones.</p>

<p>First, you get up to $1,000 in statutory damages from a collection agency or debt buyer who has <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_an_alabama_consumer_s_1.html">violated the FDCPA</a>.  You get this even if you cannot prove any actual damages.  This is designed this way in order to encourage people who have been abused to sue the debt collectors to help encourage the debt collectors to follow the law.</p>

<p>Second, if you have actual damages (loss of income, emotional distress, credit damage, etc) then you can be compensated for those actual damages.  We have known of consumers who have been fired because of calls to work, who have suffered damage to their credit reports by false reporting, and other types of damage.  The law does allow for compensation.</p>

<p>Third, you get a free lawyer in the sense that the debt buyer or collection agency may have to pay for your attorney's fees.  We handle these cases on a contingency basis which means there is no upfront charge and we get paid when the case is settled or when a court determines what our fees will be that have to be paid by the defendant.  You can appreciate the irony of an abusive debt collector not only having to pay statutory damages or actual damages but also its attorney and your attorney....</p>

<p>Finally, the costs and expenses of the case will ultimately be paid by the debt collector if you are successful.</p>

<p>So, does the FDCPA provide anything?  Absolutely.  Statutory damages.  Actual damages.  Free lawyer.  Costs and expenses.  The FDCPA is a powerful weapon when you are dealing with abusive debt collectors.  We can help.  We <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">sue abusive debt collectors</a>.</p>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Bad Economy - Good News For Abusive Debt Collectors?</title>
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    <published>2008-05-12T14:56:51Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-12T15:00:09Z</updated>
    
    <summary>A story last month in Business Week discussed how the sub prime mess and sluggish economy in general has created a good opportunity for debt collectors and debt buyers to make more money on the rising level of defaulted debts....</summary>
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        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/apr2008/pi2008049_379121.htm">story last month in Business Week</a> discussed how the sub prime mess and sluggish economy in general has created a good opportunity for debt collectors and debt buyers to make more money on the rising level of defaulted debts.  </p>

<blockquote>In the early 1990s the consumer debt-buying industry began to gain steam, and in 2005 debt buyers purchased about $110 billion of delinquent debts, about twice the amount bought in 2000. Credit-card debt consists of about 70% of the accounts sold to debt buyers, followed by automobile loans, telecommunications debt, and retail accounts. According to Kaulkin Ginsberg, the charge-off rate and the amount of outstanding consumer credit both increased in the third quarter of 2007, indicating a favorable supply environment for debt purchasers.

<p>However the unemployment rate and the number of bankruptcy filings also rose in that quarter, indicating a more challenging collection environment as debtors had fewer resources available to pay down debts. And in February of this year U.S. consumer bankruptcy filings increased more than 15% over the prior month and 37% from a year ago, according to the American Bankruptcy Institute, using data from the National Bankruptcy Research Center. </blockquote></p>

<p>Debt buyers and collectors certainly have a right to collect debts that are justly owed by the consumer to them.  <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_an_alabama_consumer_s_1.html">But they don't have the right to be unfair, untruthful, disrespectful or treat consumers in an undignified manner</a>.  This includes <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/PracticeAreas/Ive-Been-Sued-What-Should.asp">suing consumers</a> when the <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2007/05/alabama_consumers_sued_by_debt.html">debt buyers know they have no proof that the consumer owes the debt buyer the money</a>.</p>

<p>If you live in Alabama and have been contacted by a debt collector or sued by a debt buyer, <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">please feel free to contact us for a free consultation</a>.</p>]]>
        
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    <title>Seminar Paper On The Fair Credit Reporting Act Related To Debt Collectors - Part Five - Conclusion</title>
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    <published>2008-05-11T14:41:55Z</published>
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    <summary>This is the final part of our seminar paper presented to collection and consumer lawyers at the University of Alabama Law School. Please contact us if you have any questions. V. CONCLUSION Using the credit reporting tool can be very...</summary>
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        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is the final part of our seminar paper presented to collection and consumer lawyers at the University of Alabama Law School.  <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">Please contact us if you have any questions</a>.</p>

<p>V.	CONCLUSION</p>

<p>Using the credit reporting tool can be very useful for debt collectors.  It can assist debt collectors in collecting the right debts from the right people.  In our practice one of the reasons clients come to see us about suing debt collectors is because the debt collector’s account on the consumer’s credit report is preventing the consumer from obtaining a car or home loan.  Credit reporting results in people paying attention.</p>

<p>But, if the credit reporting is misused, this tool can be very dangerous to debt collectors.  Lawsuits can result under the strict liability statute of the FDCPA and also under FCRA which allows punitive damages.  State law may also be brought against abusive debt collectors.<br />
Debt collectors should be very deliberate about using credit reports and reporting debts to the CRAs.  It should not be undertaken lightly – instead serious thought and planning should occur before reporting occurs and before pulling credit reports occurs.</p>

<p>Consumers should be vigilant whenever a debt collector appears in any manner on their credit reports.  If there is an inquiry – a credit pull – then this should be investigated.  Was there a right to pull the credit report?  If not, this may be an excellent lawsuit.  If a debt collector is reporting a debt, is it accurate?  If not, then it should be disputed with both the CRAs and the debt collector.  If it is not resolved, then a lawsuit may be in order pulling from the FDCPA, FCRA, and/or state law.<br />
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    <title>Seminar Paper On The Fair Credit Reporting Act Related To Debt Collectors - Part Four - Dangers To Debt Collectors From Consumer Disputes</title>
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    <published>2008-05-10T14:36:37Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-10T14:45:12Z</updated>
    
    <summary>In this fourth part of our seminar paper, we look at the impact of consumer disputes either directly to a debt collector or to the credit reporting agencies concerning false information put on the consumer&apos;s credit report by the collection...</summary>
    <author>
        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this fourth part of our seminar paper, we look at the impact of consumer disputes either directly to a debt collector or to the <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2007/03/third_critical_step_in_correct.html">credit reporting agencies concerning false information</a> put on the consumer's credit report by the collection agency.</p>

<p>IV.	DANGERS TO DEBT COLLECTORS FROM CONSUMER DISPUTES</p>

<p>There are two areas in which a debt collector needs to be able to properly handle “disputes” from consumers.  One arises out of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) and the other is from the reinvestigation part of the FCRA.</p>

<p>A.	FDCPA – 1692e(8)</p>

<p>This section of the FDCPA states that it is a violation of the FDCPA to “Communicat[e] or threaten[] to communicate . . . credit information which is known or which should be known to be false, including the failure to communicate that a disputed debt is disputed.”  [Emphasis added].</p>

<p>If a consumer disputes  a debt with a debt collector, and then the debt collector reports or updates the reporting of information, it must tell the CRAs that the account is disputed.  This will result in a notation under the “Remarks” section of the trade line that the account “is disputed by consumer” which normally has the effect of it not being considered when the various scoring models (FICO, etc) are used to compute a credit score.</p>

<p>This is often overlooked by debt collectors either intentionally or unintentionally.  There is an incentive to not mark the account as disputed in order to “encourage” the consumer to pay.  The danger, of course, is that this is an absolute violation of FDCPA and so suit can be brought against the debt collector.</p>

<p>In the suit, statutory damages can be awarded and attorney’s fees.  The other problem for debt collectors is the consumer may bring an invasion of privacy claim which could expose the debt collector to punitive damages.  If the violation of the law is not intentional, then the debt collector will be spared the punitive damages but can still be liable under the FDCPA and state law (invasion of privacy primarily) which means compensatory damages or statutory damages, and attorney fees.</p>

<p>A recent case on this subject explains the law, at least in the Eighth Circuit.  In <em>Wilheim v. Credico, Inc.</em>, 2008 WL 553207 (8th Cir. March 3, 2008), the Court noted that if the debt collector reports the account and then learns of the fact that it is disputed, the debt collector does not have to update the report.  But, if the debt collector does update the report, it must note the “disputed” status.  2008 WL 553207 at *2.  This opinion ignores the requirements imposed upon debt collectors (furnishers) by 15 U.S.C. Section 1681s-2(a).  It does not appear the plaintiff in Credico argued this and it will be interesting to see if this argument changes the outcome of future cases in the Eighth Circuit.  But what we do know is that if a debt collector knows about a dispute and then chooses to update or report, it must include the “disputed” status or it faces liability.  </p>

<p>B.	 Disputes Under The FCRA</p>

<p>Section 1681s-2(b) imposes an affirmative duty upon a debt collector (as a furnisher) to investigate a consumer dispute if the debt collector receives notice of the dispute from a CRA.  That is the critical requirement which many consumers overlook.  It makes “common sense” that you could dispute directly with a debt collector for false credit reporting information but that does not trigger any private right of action under the FCRA  if the investigation is either not performed or not performed in a reasonable manner.</p>

<p>Assuming the dispute is made to the CRA and the CRA notifies the debt collector, what must the debt collector do?  Basically, the debt collector must perform a reasonable investigation and then report back its findings to the CRA.</p>

<p>The debt collector must “conduct an investigation with respect to the disputed information.”  15 U.S.C. Section 1681s-2(b)(1)(A).  This includes reviewing all information the debt collector has on the account.  The seminal case on what “investigation” means is <em>Johnson v. MBNA American Bank, N.A.</em>, 357 F.3d 426 (4th Cir. 2004), which stated in relevant part as follows:<br />
<blockquote>The key term at issue here, “investigation,” is defined as “[a] detailed inquiry or systematic examination.” Am. Heritage Dictionary 920 (4th ed.2000); see Webster's Third New Int'l Dictionary 1189 (1981) (defining “investigation” as “a searching inquiry”). Thus, the plain meaning of “investigation” clearly requires some degree of careful inquiry by creditors. Further, § 1681s-2(b)(1)(A) uses the term “investigation” in the context of articulating a creditor's duties in the consumer dispute process outlined by the FCRA. It would make little sense to conclude that, in *431  creating a system intended to give consumers a means to dispute-and, ultimately, correct-inaccurate information on their credit reports, Congress used the term “investigation” to include superficial, unreasonable inquiries by creditors. Cf. Cahlin v. Gen. Motors Acceptance Corp., 936 F.2d 1151, 1160 (11th Cir.1991) (interpreting analogous statute governing reinvestigations of consumer disputes by credit reporting agencies to require reasonable investigations); Pinner v. Schmidt, 805 F.2d 1258, 1262 (5th Cir.1986) (same). We therefore hold that § 1681s-2(b)(1) requires creditors, after receiving notice of a consumer dispute from a credit reporting agency, to conduct a reasonable investigation of their records to determine whether the disputed information can be verified.<br />
</blockquote></p>

<p>Johnson, 357 F.3d at 430-431 (emphasis added).</p>

<p>	This is an area where it becomes very dangerous for debt collectors (particularly debt buyers) to report information when the debt collector does not keep careful track of the information it has.  Being off on the date of the delinquency (“re-aging”) or whether the account is disputed or the amount owed can lead to a lawsuit against the debt collector.  In our experience debt collectors do not seem experienced dealing with laws outside of the FDCPA and seem surprised when a case that they view as a “technical” or “statutory” case can result in punitive damages because of the FCRA and state law.<br />
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    <title>Seminar Paper On The Fair Credit Reporting Act Related To Debt Collectors - Part Three - Pulling Credit Reports - Harmful Or Helpful</title>
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    <published>2008-05-09T14:31:30Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-09T14:40:38Z</updated>
    
    <summary>This is the third part of our paper we handed out at a seminar we recently gave at the University of Alabama Law School to collection and consumer lawyers. We hope this is helpful to you as debt collectors very...</summary>
    <author>
        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is the third part of our paper we handed out at a seminar we recently gave at the University of Alabama Law School to collection and consumer lawyers.  We hope this is helpful to you as debt collectors very often pull credit reports.  Sometimes that is allowable but other times it is illegal so you should <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/PracticeAreas/Fair-Credit-Reporting.asp">always check your credit reports</a> to see if debt collectors are pulling your reports.  If they are, demand that they tell you the basis for doing so.</p>

<p>III.	  PULLING CREDIT REPORTS – HELPFUL OR HARMFUL?</p>

<p>What are the reasons a debt collector would want to pull credit reports?  There are several legitimate reasons and several illegitimate ones.  There is also recent case law that warns debt collectors to be careful when deciding whether to pull credit reports.</p>

<p>A.	Why Pull Credit Reports?</p>

<p>Debt collectors pull reports to help in collection activities.  This is the ultimate reason to pull a credit report of a consumer/debtor.  Pulling a report can help a debt collector find a debtor.  It can also give guidance to a debt collector as to whether it is worthwhile to try to collect from a consumer.  A credit report is similar to a report card – it shows how the consumer is doing financially.  Is the consumer paying her bills on time?  Maxed out on credit cards?  Applying for more credit – perhaps a mortgage?  Finally it lets the consumer know that the debt collector is coming after her and may prompt her to contact the debt collector.</p>

<p>Debt collectors, however, have been known to pull reports in order to intimidate or hurt consumers.  For example, some debt collectors have told consumers they will pull the consumer’s report every day to trash their credit score.  Each debt collector pull is a “hard inquiry” and does damage the credit score.  It is unclear if the scoring models used by FICO and the CRAs would still allow multiple pulls by a single debt collector to destroy a consumer’s credit score.  But the threat is still valid enough to intimidate consumers who want to protect their credit score.</p>

<p>B.	When Can A Debt Collector Pull A Credit Report?</p>

<p>It used to be assumed that as long as the debt collector was pulling the report for collection purposes, then it was permissible.  Now it is not so clear.  </p>

<p>The significance of this is pulling a credit report without permission exposes the debt collector to an FCRA lawsuit.  Statutory damages can be awarded as well as attorney fees and punitive damages.  Pulling credit reports without permission is a perfect example of an invasion of privacy which could quite naturally lead to a large compensatory damage award for emotional distress.</p>

<p>C.	Pintos Decision Is A Warning To Debt Collectors</p>

<p>The recent case of Pintos v. Pacific Creditors Assoc., 504 F. 3d 792 (9th Cir. 2007), has created some concern among debt collectors as to when it is proper to pull credit reports to assist in collecting debts. </p>

<p>Pintos sued Pacific Creditors Association (“Pacific) for violations of the FCRA alleging Pacific obtained her credit report “without any FCRA-sanctioned purpose.”  504 F.3d at 796.</p>

<p>The district court granted defendant’s summary judgment motion citing to the Ninth Circuit’s previous decision under Hasbun v. County of Los Angeles, 323 f. 3d 801 (9th Cir. 2003), which had held that debt collection was a permissible purpose for obtaining a credit report.  504 F.3d at 796.</p>

<p>The issue was whether the FCRA and FACTA  (recent amendments to the FCRA) permit a debt collector to pull a credit report for the purposes of collecting any debt or does the debt have to arise out of a voluntary “credit transaction”?</p>

<p>The facts are fairly simple - Pintos’ car was found by police officers with an invalid registration and was therefore towed by P&S towing.  P&S later obtained a lien for the cost of towing and storage.  Pintos failed to claim the vehicle and it was sold by P&S.  The sales price of the vehicle was not enough to cover the lien, so P&S asserted a claim against Pintos for the difference.  P&S transferred the claim to the debt collector Pacific to collect the deficiency.  504 F.3d at 796-797.</p>

<p>On December 5, 2002, Pacific pulled a copy of Pintos’ credit report through Experian.  It asserted that this was done in connection with its efforts to collect on Pintos’ debt to P&S. 504 F.3d at 797.</p>

<p>The Court began its analysis by noting that “Congress enacted the FCRA in 1970 to promote efficiency in the Nation’s banking system and to protect consumer privacy.” 504 F.3d at 798 [citation omitted].  It has frequently noted that those two goals are in tension and the FCRA attempts to balance the two competing interests.  504 F.3d at 798.</p>

<p>Section 1681b(a) authorizes the furnishing of credit reports for a limited number of purposes.  Section 1681b(a)(3)(A) limits the furnishing of reports “in connection with a credit transaction involving the consumer on whom the information is to be furnished and involving the extension of credit to, or review or collection of an account of, the consumer.”  [Emphasis added].  The Court noted that this section does not provide that all “account collection” is a permissible purpose for obtaining credit reports.  Instead, this section is limited to collections on an account “in connection with a credit transaction involving the consumer.” 15 U.S.C.  Section 1681b(a)(3)(A).  504 F.3d at 798.</p>

<p>In order to determine whether Pacific had a permissible purpose, the Court undertook a detailed analysis of the terms used in § 1681b(a)(3)(A).  The Court focused first on the definition of the term “credit transaction,” noting that the original Act did not define the term “credit.”  Congress, however, amended the FCRA in the FACTA defining credit as “the right granted by a creditor to a debtor to defer payment of debt or to incur debts and defer its payment or to purchase property or services and defer payment therefore.” 504 F. 3d at 798. </p>

<p>The Court held that a “credit transaction” requires “voluntary consumer participation,” noting “[a] consumer who chooses to initiate a credit transaction implicitly consents to the release of his or her credit report for related purposes.”  504 F.3d at 799. Thus, the act “forges a direct link” between the consumer’s search for credit and the furnishing of the report.  This requirement offers the consumer that degree of privacy protection sought by the Act.  The two critical elements are “voluntary” and “direct participation.”  504 F.3d at 799.</p>

<p>In this case, Pintos did not voluntarily seek credit.  Obviously, Pintos did not intend for her vehicle to be towed and stored and thus incur the resulting debt to P&S.  Thus, the Court held the debt arose involuntarily.  Additionally, she did not seek and no one offered her “credit.” Therefore, since Pintos’ credit report was not pulled in the underlying debt as a result of a voluntary credit transaction, Pacific  did not have a permissible purpose in pulling the credit report to collect.  Pacific did not have any more right to pull the credit report than did the underlying creditor P&S.  Though the Court did not articulate this, it implicitly found that P&S would not have had the right to pull the credit report.</p>

<p>The district court’s granting of summary judgment was based on a pre-FACTA case.  FACTA specifically defined “credit transaction” where the FCRA had not.  Interestingly, the Court specifically noted that it was not addressing whether Hasbun, a case in which the government pulled a credit report to assist in collecting on a child support judgment, would have been decided differently today in this post FACTA world.</p>

<p>Thus, the Court reversed the summary judgment because Pacific did not pull Pintos’ credit report related a “proper” credit transaction.</p>

<p>D.	Bottom Line For Debt Collectors</p>

<p>Debt collectors must make sure the underlying transaction was a voluntary credit transaction in which the consumer directly participated.  There does not seem to be much case law on this issue but several types of debt come to mind that probably are not credit transactions.  Emergency room visits – the patient may have been unconscious.  But would the doctrine of implied consent apply?  Fines or penalties?  Child support?  Debt collectors must think carefully on these matters as a mistake (particularly an “across the board” mistake on thousands of consumers) could be devastating financially for the debt collector.  Consumers must examine every time a debt collector pulls  their reports to see why it was pulled and whether the debt collector had a legitimate basis to do so.  If not, then a suit against the debt collector may be in order.<br />
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    <title>Seminar Paper On The Fair Credit Reporting Act Related To Debt Collectors - Part Two - Overview Of The FCRA</title>
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    <link rel="service.edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/cgi-bin/mt-atom.cgi/weblog/blog_id=62/entry_id=17194" title="Seminar Paper On The Fair Credit Reporting Act Related To Debt Collectors - Part Two - Overview Of The FCRA" />
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    <published>2008-05-08T11:31:10Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-08T11:45:11Z</updated>
    
    <summary>As we mentioned yesterday, we are putting up parts of our seminar paper that we recently presented at the University of Alabama Law School. This deals with credit reports and debt collectors and we presented this to collection lawyers and...</summary>
    <author>
        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
    </author>
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            <category term="Credit Report Errors" />
    
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        <![CDATA[<p>As we mentioned yesterday, we are putting up parts of our seminar paper that we recently presented at the University of Alabama Law School.  This deals with credit reports and debt collectors and we presented this to collection lawyers and consumer lawyers.</p>

<p>As always, <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">please feel free to contact us if you have any questions</a>.</p>

<p>II.	OVERVIEW OF THE FCRA</p>

<p>A.	Players</p>

<p>Furnishers are those individuals or companies (including debt collectors) that furnish or provide information to the CRAs about consumers.  This is normally done on a monthly or quarterly basis.  </p>

<p>The consumer reporting agencies (“CRAs”), which include Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion , are the companies that compile the credit reports on consumers.  The furnishers send the information about consumers to the CRAs who then store that data.  When someone requests a “credit report” then the CRA from whom it is requested will “pull” the data together for that consumer and create or compile the report.</p>

<p>A credit report is defined as “any written, oral, or other communication of any information by a consumer reporting agency bearing on a consumer’s credit worthiness . . . .”  15 U.S.C. Section 1681a(d)(1).</p>

<p>	A “user” of information is anyone who pulls or requests a credit report from a CRA.  There are specific rules about who is allowed to pull a report and under what circumstances it is allowable to pull a report.</p>

<p>B.	How Credit Reports Are Obtained</p>

<p>It is now much easier for consumers to pull their credit reports.  They are allowed to pull them for free every twelve months by going to www.annualcreditreport.com.  With advertising on TV and other places, there is more awareness of the need to pull credit reports.  Consequently, more consumers know what is on their credit reports.  This fact enhances the effectiveness and dangerousness of the credit reporting tool for debt collectors.</p>

<p>C.	How Inaccurate Information Is Disputed</p>

<p>	If a consumer feels information is inaccurate, there are two ways to dispute it.  One way, which invokes the FCRA, is to send a dispute to the CRAs.  This can be done in a variety of ways, but the two main ways are by letter and by using the web based system at each CRA’s website.  The other way is to dispute directly with the furnisher.  Unfortunately for consumers, while this imposes duties upon the furnisher,  there appears to be no private right of action (under the FCRA) unless the CRA notifies the furnisher of the dispute.</p>

<p>	Basically the dispute needs to identify the consumer and the account or “trade line” that is alleged to be in error.  It also needs to identify what the problem is unless the furnisher has the information in its file to show that the account is inaccurate.  For example, if the debt collector knows that the account has been included in bankruptcy and discharged, the dispute letter could simply state the account is “inaccurate” as the debt collector knows it is inaccurate.  But, for example, if the debt collector has the wrong “Sara D. Williams” then the consumer should send a letter pointing this out and possibly including an affidavit.  The more information given to the CRA, the more responsibility this puts on the CRA to do an adequate job of investigating the dispute.</p>

<p>	The CRA is supposed to forward all relevant information to the furnisher so, once again, the more information that is provided then the more responsibility the furnisher has to investigate.</p>

<p>	The CRA has thirty days from receipt of the dispute to investigate.  15 U.S.C. Section 1681i(a)(1)(A).  In our experience, the extent of the investigation by the CRA is simply to forward the dispute on to the furnisher with an electronic code which describes the dispute.  That might be “bankruptcy” or “disputes account balance” or “not his/her account” etc.  This means as a practical matter whether the account/trade line will stay on the consumer’s report or will be deleted or will be modified is up to the furnisher.  Therefore, the debt collector must ensure that it has performed a reasonable investigation as it cannot count on the CRA to independently investigate and catch the debt collector’s errors.</p>

<p>D.	Statute of Limitations For FCRA Claims</p>

<p>The statute of limitations is now two years from the date the consumer discovers the violation and within five years of the actual violation.  15 U.S.C. Section 1681p.  This is a change in the law as <em>TRW Inc. v. Andrews</em>, 122 S.Ct. 441 (2001) had held there was no discovery rule in the FCRA.  But Congress changed the statute to, in essence, overrule Andrews in the 2003 amendments to the FCRA.  </p>

<p>With respect to a consumer who has disputed with a CRA information provided by a furnisher, it is two years from when the furnisher received the notification from the CRA of the dispute as there is no private cause of action against a furnisher (under FCRA) until the CRA notifies the furnisher of the dispute.  We’ll address this in the final section.</p>

<p>E.	Damages Under FCRA</p>

<p>The basic rule is that if a furnisher negligently violates the FCRA then the furnisher is liable for actual damages (compensatory damages – including emotional distress), court costs, and reasonable attorney fees.  15 U.S.C. Section 1681o(a).  If the violation is willful then the consumer can receive statutory damages (up to $1,000) or actual damages and punitive damages.  15 U.S.C. Section 1681n(a).</p>

<p>If someone obtains a credit report without a permissible purpose then the damages are statutory or actual damages, punitive damages, court costs, and attorney fees.  15 U.S.C. Section 1681n(b).<br />
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<entry>
    <title>Seminar Paper On The Fair Credit Reporting Act Related To Debt Collectors - Part One - Introduction</title>
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    <published>2008-05-07T11:23:21Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-07T11:27:30Z</updated>
    
    <summary>We recently were asked to present a seminar at the University of Alabama that was attended by consumer lawyers and collection lawyers. We prepared a written paper to go with the presentation and we will attach the entire paper as...</summary>
    <author>
        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
    </author>
            <category term="Collectors/Debt Buyers" />
            <category term="Credit Report Errors" />
    
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        <![CDATA[<p>We recently were asked to present a seminar at the University of Alabama that was attended by consumer lawyers and collection lawyers.  We prepared a written paper to go with the presentation and we will attach the entire paper as a pdf but for now we will put it up in sections over the next several days.</p>

<p>We hope this will be helpful.  If you have any questions about debt collectors and how credit reports relate to them, <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">please let us know</a>.</p>

<p>I.	INTRODUCTION</p>

<p>Debt collectors can use the reporting of a debt to a consumer reporting agency (CRA) as a “powerful tool designed, in part, to wrench compliance with payment terms . . . .”  <em>Rivera v. Bank One</em>, 145 F.R.D. 614 (D.P.R. 1993).</p>

<p>The fact that reporting debts owed by consumers is a powerful tool cannot be questioned.  Nevertheless, is it a dangerous tool?  If the area of credit reports  is mishandled in one of several ways then this powerful tool can become extraordinarily dangerous for the debt collector.<br />
We will look at three main areas.  First, an overview of the FCRA.  Second, when can debt collectors pull the credit reports of consumers who owe money?  Finally, what are the dangers for debt collectors reporting information to the CRAs when the consumer disputes the accuracy of the information reported?</p>

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<entry>
    <title>What Is An Offer Of Judgment And Why Did The Debt Collector Make One In My Case?</title>
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/05/what_is_an_offer_of_judgment_a.html" />
    <link rel="service.edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/cgi-bin/mt-atom.cgi/weblog/blog_id=62/entry_id=16765" title="What Is An Offer Of Judgment And Why Did The Debt Collector Make One In My Case?" />
    <id>tag:www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com,2008://62.16765</id>
    
    <published>2008-05-07T01:08:48Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-07T01:14:31Z</updated>
    
    <summary>Sometimes Alabama consumers are faced with an &quot;offer of judgment&quot; in cases by debt collectors. An offer of judgment (OOJ) is made under Rule 68 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. It means what it says - the defendant...</summary>
    <author>
        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
    </author>
            <category term="Collectors/Debt Buyers" />
            <category term="Federal Rules of Civil Procedure" />
    
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/">
        <![CDATA[<p>Sometimes Alabama consumers are faced with an "offer of judgment" in cases by debt collectors.    An offer of judgment (OOJ) is made under Rule 68 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.  It means what it says - the defendant is offering to allow the plaintiff consumer to take a judgment against the defendant.</p>

<p>Odd, huh?  The reason defendant debt collectors do this is to "stop the bleeding" by limiting the damages that the plaintiff can recover.  It is similar to a normal settlement offer but it has one twist in favor of the collection agency - if you reject the offer and then get a judgment for less than the amount of the OOJ, you can be responsible for some of the costs and expenses the debt collector incurred after you rejected the OOJ.</p>

<p>Normally, an OOJ is not terribly important as if you lose the case you may be responsible for many of these costs anyway.  Also, the OOJ is rarely enough to cover a reasonable jury verdict and the attorney's fees that are owed.</p>

<p>One great advantage of an OOJ is it is a judgment.  You sued the debt collector and there is now a judgment against the debt collector.  The collection agencies will try and say it is meaningless as it was done for settlement purposes - but it is a judgment.  We had a defendant make an OOJ which we accepted - then the defendant sent us a release for our client to sign.  We responded - "Its a judgment, not a settlement" so there was no release, no confidentiality, etc.  Just a judgment which will always be on the record of the defendant.</p>

<p>So, if you get an OOJ, it needs to be examined but it should not be a cause for any alarm as long as you are being reasonable in what you expect a jury to return a verdict for in your favor.</p>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Why We Sue Abusive Debt Collectors Instead Of Just Asking Them To Stop</title>
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    <link rel="service.edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/cgi-bin/mt-atom.cgi/weblog/blog_id=62/entry_id=16762" title="Why We Sue Abusive Debt Collectors Instead Of Just Asking Them To Stop" />
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    <published>2008-05-03T12:53:30Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-03T13:00:10Z</updated>
    
    <summary>Sometimes defense lawyers tell us we should have just told the debt collectors that we caught them doing something wrong (harassing conduct, false credit reporting, contacting third parties, etc) and let them fix it instead of suing them. While at...</summary>
    <author>
        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
    </author>
            <category term="Collectors/Debt Buyers" />
    
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sometimes defense lawyers tell us we should have just told the debt collectors that we caught them doing something wrong (<a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_an_alabama_consumer_s_1.html">harassing conduct</a>, <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/02/alabama_consumers_sued_the_rol_1.html">false credit reporting</a>, <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_a_collection_agency_c.html">contacting third parties</a>, etc) and let them fix it instead of suing them.  While at first this sounds reasonable, the reason the debt collectors want this is very malicious.</p>

<p>Collection agencies think they should be allowed to violate the law and then when one out of ten or one out of a hundred consumers hires a lawyer, then the lawyer should tell the collection agency how it is violating the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) and as long as the collection agency promises to "behave" no suit should be filed.</p>

<p>This is wrong on several levels.  We represent consumers - we are not traffic cops.  Our job is to sue abusive debt collectors - it is not to issue "warnings".  Even if we were like the police - think of it like this.  If the police see someone stealing and they catch the thief, can the thief say "Oh well, you caught me this one time out of a hundred.  Tell you what Officer, I'll just put this money back and we'll call it even, ok?"  That makes no sense!</p>

<p>In the same manner, if the debt collector just had to obey the law occasionally when they get caught, what incentive would there be to do the right thing?  None.  In addition, the FDCPA has been around for 30 years!  This is not a new thing.  Collection agencies and debt buyers know exactly what the law is and how to comply with it.  They have just chosen to violate it blatantly - particularly when it comes to <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/03/alabama_consumers_sued_the_rol_2.html">credit reporting</a> and <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_a_collection_agency_c.html">contacting third parties (neighbors, family, co-workers, etc)</a>.</p>

<p>Congress intended that consumers could and would sue to help encourage abusive debt collectors to clean their act up.  So, are we embarrassed about suing abusive debt collectors instead of "giving them a warning"?  Absolutely not!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">If you have been abused by a collection agency, feel free to contact us</a>.  We don't issue warning tickets - we sue abusive collectors.</p>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Have You Been Sent A &quot;Fax Verification&quot; At Your Work - A Classic Dirty Trick Of Debt Collectors</title>
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/05/have_you_been_sent_a_fax_verif.html" />
    <link rel="service.edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/cgi-bin/mt-atom.cgi/weblog/blog_id=62/entry_id=16760" title="Have You Been Sent A &quot;Fax Verification&quot; At Your Work - A Classic Dirty Trick Of Debt Collectors" />
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    <published>2008-05-02T12:43:45Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-02T12:45:11Z</updated>
    
    <summary>Alabama consumers often face this dirty trick which violates the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) - a collector will send in a &quot;fax verification&quot; or &quot;employment verification&quot; to the consumer&apos;s work. Supposedly this is to find out if the...</summary>
    <author>
        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
    </author>
            <category term="Collectors/Debt Buyers" />
    
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        <![CDATA[<p>Alabama consumers often face this dirty trick which violates the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) - a collector will send in a "fax verification" or "employment verification" to the consumer's work.  Supposedly this is to find out if the consumer works there but the real reason is to <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_a_collection_agency_c.html">embarass and shame the consumer as all illegal third party contact is designed to do</a>.</p>

<p>Debt collectors use this because it is effective.  No consumer wants a call from "Human Resources" or the payroll department about some fax form from a collection agency.  No consumer wants their boss walking into their cubicle or office holding the fax from the debt collector.  <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/PracticeAreas/Can-Collection-Agency-Call-My-Office.asp">This is why collectors use this dirty trick</a>.</p>

<p>The irony is the debt collector has sealed his fate by sending the fax - it is perfect proof of who sent it, from what number, and the exact time.  The collector can't lie about sending it like collectors often do about illegal phone calls.</p>

<p>If you have suffered this type of abuse from a collector, <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">please feel free to contact us immediately to discuss your options</a>.</p>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Third Party Contact (Neighbors &amp; Co-Workers) - Why Debt Collectors Break The Law</title>
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    <link rel="service.edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/cgi-bin/mt-atom.cgi/weblog/blog_id=62/entry_id=16759" title="Third Party Contact (Neighbors &amp; Co-Workers) - Why Debt Collectors Break The Law" />
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    <published>2008-05-01T11:34:11Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-01T11:40:29Z</updated>
    
    <summary>Debt collectors illegally call third parties - that is, neighbors, family, co-workers, ministers, etc - for one reason and one reason only - because it is effective in getting Alabama consumers to pay money. Collectors often say &quot;It must be...</summary>
    <author>
        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
        <uri>http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/</uri>
    </author>
            <category term="Collectors/Debt Buyers" />
    
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/">
        <![CDATA[<p>Debt collectors <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_a_collection_agency_c.html">illegally call third parties - that is, neighbors, family, co-workers, ministers</a>, etc - for one reason and one reason only - because it is effective in getting Alabama consumers to pay money.</p>

<p>Collectors often say "It must be ok to do this because look how effective it is in getting people to pay!"  OK - so would killing the consumer's dog, I suppose.  Or shooting the windows out of the consumer's house.  Effective and legal do not always go together!</p>

<p>Collectors call neighbors and co-workers to embarrass and humiliate Alabama consumers and force them to pay.  It is appropriate to collect legitimate debts in a legitimate manner but just because something is effective does make it right.</p>

<p>If you have a debt collector or debt buyer who has been calling third parties then you know how effective it is.  How disturbing it is and embarrassing that it is.  You have an option - <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">contact us to talk about what your options are in suing the abusive debt collector</a>.  It is not only legal - but highly effective - to <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/PracticeAreas/Creditor-Harassment-Fair-Debt-Collection.asp">sue abusive debt collectors who break the law</a>.</p>]]>
        
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    <title>Why Is This Debt Collector So Hateful Towards Me?</title>
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    <published>2008-05-01T02:25:44Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-01T02:30:12Z</updated>
    
    <summary>Some collectors are just jerks. Plain and simple. But most are under-trained and overworked with too much pressure to bring in money and promises to pay. It is like we see with our trucking litigation cases - often times the...</summary>
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        <name>John Watts &amp; M. Stan Herring</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Some collectors are just jerks.  Plain and simple.  But most are under-trained and overworked with too much pressure to bring in money and promises to pay.</p>

<p>It is like we see with our <a href="http://www.birminghaminjuryblog.com/truck_wreck/">trucking litigation cases</a> - often times the truck drivers are good people but they are put under so much pressure to make the "runs" that they exceed the number of hours or they don't get enough sleep or they overload their trucks.  This, sadly, is true of many collectors.  They have an "auto-dialer" that constantly throws calls at them.  They are calling people who don't want to talk to the collector.  The collector has no control over his or her time - the calls just keep coming off the auto-dialer.  </p>

<p>We say all of this to point out that collectors are often mean and short tempered because the collection agencies have put too much pressure on them to collect money.  In these hard economic times, when it is harder to pay collectors, the collectors receive even more pressure to get money in or at least promises to pay.  Some, unfortunately, give in to the temptation and <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/PracticeAreas/Creditor-Harassment-Fair-Debt-Collection.asp">become abusive in order to get the money in</a>.</p>

<p>If you have been <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumerlawblog.com/2008/04/when_can_an_alabama_consumer_s_1.html">abused by a collector</a>, for whatever reason, <a href="http://www.alabamaconsumer.com/CM/Custom/Contact.asp">feel free to contact us for a free consultation on your rights</a>.</p>]]>
        
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