December 29, 2008

Is It Legal For A Debt Collector To Leave A Voice Mail Message On My Cell Phone?

We recently had a post about voicemail messages to your home phone and everything we said there applies to cell phone messages as well. The reason we have added this post is the rampant use of auto dialers by collectors against Alabama residents who have cell phones.

The Telephone Consumer Protection Act prohibits debt collectors from using "auto dialers" or computer generated calls (you know the annoying recorded messages you get when you say "hello") unless you gave express permission for the collection agency to call you on your cell phone.

Violations entitle you to recover $500 per call or $1500 per call if it was intentional or reckless. When you consider the massive numbers of calls most collectors make against even a single person, this can add up nicely.

But, just because a debt collector calls your cell phone does this mean the law has been violated? Remember about the express permission. There has been some controversy over what this means. What if you gave the creditor permission to call your cell or you put it on the application? Does that give the debt collector permission to auto dial your cell phone? Some say yes. Others say you must have given the debt collector itself permission.

The trend seems to be that if you have given the creditor your cell then you agree to any subsequent debt collector or debt buyer to use an auto-dialer against you. We don't agree with this but assuming it is the law or will be the law, what are your options?

First, if you are still dealing with the creditor, revoke your permission for the creditor to call your cell phone. Our suggestion is to mail a letter (certified or fax with a confirmation) telling the creditor not to call your cell phone.

Second, if you are now dealing with a collector who is using an auto dialer against your cell phone, tell the collector it does NOT have permission to use an auto dialer. You only want a human being to call your cell - if it can't get you on the human being list then remove your number all together. Again, send this certified or at least by fax. This may be enough under the law (in this developing area) to remove the ability of the collector to use these annoying auto dialers against you.

If you live in Alabama and have any questions about this, particularly if you never gave anyone permission to call your cell or if you revoked the permission, please feel free to contact us as we would like to hear about your experiences and any questions you might have.

December 28, 2008

Is It Legal For A Debt Collector To Leave A Voice Mail Message On My Home Phone?

Debt collectors routinely break federal law when leaving voice mail messages on your home phone. According to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, a debt collector must give you the "mini-miranda" when having any communication with you. This means telling you that this is a debt collector and this is an attempt to collect a debt. This prevents any trickery that used to occur in the past - where debt collectors would claim to be a "sweepstakes" company or otherwise trick the consumer into calling.

Despite the fact that giving the mini-miranda has been the law for years, many collectors refuse to give this. There are two explanations, neither one of which particularly matter, but we give these to help you understand why these collectors routinely break the law.

First, collectors don't leave this information because it helps them to collect the debt. It may not always make sense to us why they do things but understand collectors are in the business of collecting debts and what they do is calculated to help them do that - collect debts. Leaving out the mini-miranda is just one example.

The second reason for breaking the law is that collectors know if they leave a recording on your answering machine or voicemail and someone other than your spouse hears it, they have violated the rule against third party disclosures.

So collectors feel that the best way to collect and the best way to avoid third party disclosures is to (ironically!) violate the law by not leaving the mini-miranda.

If you receive voice mails on your home phone, save them. Record them onto a digital recorder or some other recording device so you can have a back up copy of the actual message. Was the mini-miranda given? If not, you are dealing with a collector that does not care that its violation is saved on your voice mail message. That kind of collector (and some of the biggest companies have this policy) will not worry about breaking other parts of FDCPA so be aware that you are dealing with an abusive debt collector.

Please feel free to call us if you have any questions about voicemail messages or other actions that a debt collector has taken against you.

December 27, 2008

What Do Voicemail and Caller ID Have To Do With Debt Collectors Calling My Neighbors?

There has been a change in the way collectors do business because of voice mails and caller id. Before we had these technological aids, when the phone rang we pretty much answered it. After all, it might be a close friend or a family member who we wanted to talk to. But sometimes it was a debt collector. When debt collectors get people on the phone they often can convince (sometimes legally sometimes illegally) to pay the debt.

But now with caller id if we don't know the person calling we can "just let it go to voicemail" which makes it more difficult for debt collectors to get consumers on the phone. When it goes to voicemail we can easily erase it. (Please note we will have a post talking about rampant violations with voice mails by debt collectors in a day or two but for now we will put aside the illegality of most voice mails). We don't have to call the collectors back.

So, the bottom line of this is that collection agencies feel that they must take drastic steps to get us on the phone. Remember, collectors want a payment or a promise to pay. How do they get consumers on the phone who "screen" their calls or "just let it go to voicemail"? Simple. Call neighbors. Call family members (particularly ex spouses). Call co-workers. When abusive collectors do this they get results. Immediately.

When your ex spouse calls you telling you about how the collectors are calling him or her, then that gets an immediate response. The same is true when neighbors and co-workers come up to us telling us about a call they received - "a very important private matter". Everyone knows this means a collection call. Everyone also wonders if the collector will do this, then what else will this collector do?

Again, all of this is designed to get a call back. And to get us in an emotional state where we won't think clearly and therefore can be intimidated into paying a bill that we may not owe.

If you have faced this, please get with us or another experienced consumer attorney as these "third party contacts" are some of the more nasty dirty tricks that abusive debt collectors use. When they use them, the abusive collection agencies should be sued and you should receive the money damages that you are entitled to receive.

December 25, 2008

New Decision On Emotional Distress Damages Under The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act

Gary Nitzkin has an excellent post about a recent decision involving the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and emotional distress damages. This is consistent with decisions in Alabama federal courts. Even though lawyers defending collectors like to pretend that emotional distress damages can never be recovered (they drink deeply from the Kool-Aid) the truth is that one of the main reasons the FDCPA was passed is because of the enormous emotional damage that results from abusive debt collectors.

If you are dealing with abusive debt collectors and you live in Alabama, we will be happy to meet with you to help you understand your options.

December 23, 2008

Can A Debt Collector Call Me About A "Charged Off" Account?

A question we often are asked is whether it is legal or proper for a debt buyer or collection agency to try to collect (call, write, sue, etc) on a credit card account that has been "charged off". The short answer is "Yes" with some exceptions....

An account that has been charged off simply means that from an accounting perspective the account has been removed from Accounts Receivable which is an asset. Here's the deal - if a business is owed money for goods or services sold or provided then this is categorized as an Account Receivable. It is money that, for example, a consumer owes to Bank of America.

But let's say its been 10 years since the consumer paid anything to Bank of America. It would be deceptive for Bank of America to still claim this account as an asset - as an Account Receivable. Really Bank of America has no expectation of ever receiving this money. So to prevent fraud against investors who are looking at the balance sheet of a company (where Account Receivable is listed) the accounting rules require that if payment has not been made in six months (some exceptions but not important for our purposes) then the account must be "written off" or "charged off" and removed from account receivable. The company normally receives a tax write off (deduction against revenues) because this was an asset that was lost or destroyed just the same as if a building for a business that was an asset burned down.

OK - what does this mean for collection and credit reporting?

For credit reporting it means the furnisher (the bank or whoever wrote the account off) must report to Equifax, Experian, TransUnion, and the other credit reporting agencies that the account has actually been charged off.

For collection purposes, the company can still try and collect from the consumer. The charge off is simply an accounting function and does not affect the validity of the debt.

As a practical matter, most companies send charged off accounts to collection agencies or sell the accounts to debt buyers. Now at this point the violations of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and (to a lesser extent) the Fair Credit Reporting Act usually begin very quickly.

OK - what about the exceptions on collecting a charged off account? First, if the account is beyond the statute of limitations then the debt buyer cannot threaten to sue and cannot actually sue as this violates the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. Second, if the account is too old (basically 7 years after charge off) then the debt buyer or collection agency cannot threaten to put this on your credit report. There are some other exceptions but these are the main two exceptions that affect Alabama consumers.

If you have questions about a charged off account or if you are dealing with a debt collector (collection agency or debt buyer) please feel free to contact us now so we can help answer any questions you have.

December 7, 2008

Outsourcing Of Legal Jobs

The Wall Street Journal reported late last month about the explosion in US legal jobs being sent overseas to India. It seems the economic troubles are causing some big companies to reduce legal expenses by hiring cheaper Indian lawyers.

While this is not directly related to consumers facing debt collection (although many collectors are now from India) or errors on credit reports (although the investigations occur off shore) it does show how the pressures on companies to reduce expenses (or raise revenues) reaches even into the most prestigious law firms. Therefore it should not be a surprise that companies will cut corners and even violate the law in collecting debts or keeping false items on your credit reports.

Unless I get a memo from Stan Herring outsourcing me, we still plan on being here representing Alabama consumers who are facing harassment by collectors and who are dealing with credit reporting errors.... Contact us if we can help you.

December 5, 2008

Good List Of Debt Settlement Tips

Jonathan Stein is a lawyer in California with a couple of really nice blogs and he recently had an article entitled "Debt Settlement Tips" published by Avvo which has information about lawyers in various states (not in Alabama yet). If you are dealing with debt and need some suggestions, take a look at his article.

If collectors have started calling you and harassing you, it may be better to consult with a consumer attorney about your options. If you are in Alabama, please call us for a free consultation on all of your options and the good and bad of each option.

December 3, 2008

Denise Richardson's Redesigned Website For Consumers

One of our favorite blogs (and bloggers) is Denise Richardson who has a wealth of helpful information about identity theft and other consumer issues. Her personal story is impressive and the content of her site reveals her dedication to consumers. She has recently redesigned her website and blog - check them out and if you don't subsribe by RSS to her blog we recommend you do so in order to make sure you get to read all of her posts.

Keep up the great work Denise!

December 1, 2008

Motivation - Never Give Up!

While not what we normally post about on here - this post by David Ward is excellent and should be read by everyone who ever thinks of giving in or giving up. This post gives a short summary of the trials and discouragements that many great historical figures faced - including Lincoln, Churchill, Einstein, Babe Ruth, etc. Very encouraging to read!

The ending message of David's post should make you want to read the entire post:

The message? Don't ever give up. Don't let anyone stop you from achieving success. Keep going, don't lose faith, and don't ever quit.

Well said.